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This is a proposed guideline for the management of user categories by genre and media.

User category grid

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  by media literature films television
by genre   Wikipedians who like literature by genre Wikipedians who like films by genre Wikipedians who like television by genre
action Wikipedians who like action by media Wikipedians who like action literature Wikipedians who like action films Wikipedians who like action television
adventure Wikipedians who like adventure by media Wikipedians who like adventure literature Wikipedians who like adventure films Wikipedians who like adventure television
children's Wikipedians who like children's media Wikipedians who like children's literature Wikipedians who like children's films Wikipedians who like children's television
comedy Wikipedians who like comedy by media Wikipedians who like comedy literature Wikipedians who like comedy films Wikipedians who like comedy television
drama Wikipedians who like drama by media Wikipedians who like drama literature Wikipedians who like drama films Wikipedians who like drama television
erotica Wikipedians who like erotica by media Wikipedians who like erotic literature Wikipedians who like erotic films Wikipedians who like erotic television
fantasy Wikipedians who like fantasy by media Wikipedians who like fantasy literature Wikipedians who like fantasy films Wikipedians who like fantasy television
historical fiction Wikipedians who like historical fiction by media Wikipedians who like historical fiction literature Wikipedians who like historical fiction films Wikipedians who like historical fiction television
horror Wikipedians who like horror by media Wikipedians who like horror literature Wikipedians who like horror films Wikipedians who like horror television
mystery Wikipedians who like mystery by media Wikipedians who like mystery literature Wikipedians who like mystery films Wikipedians who like mystery television
romance Wikipedians who like romance by media Wikipedians who like romance literature Wikipedians who like romance films Wikipedians who like romance television
science fiction Wikipedians who like science fiction by media Wikipedians who like science fiction literature Wikipedians who like science fiction films Wikipedians who like science fiction television
westerns Wikipedians who like westerns by media Wikipedians who like western literature Wikipedians who like western films Wikipedians who like western television
non-fiction Wikipedians who like non-fiction by media Wikipedians who like non-fiction books Wikipedians who like non-fiction films Wikipedians who like non-fiction television
health Wikipedians who like health by media Wikipedians who like health books Wikipedians who like health films Wikipedians who like health television
history Wikipedians who like history by media Wikipedians who like history books Wikipedians who like history films Wikipedians who like history television
science Wikipedians who like science by media Wikipedians who like science books Wikipedians who like science films Wikipedians who like science television
technology Wikipedians interested in media technology Wikipedians interested in book technologies Wikipedians interested in film technologies Wikipedians interested in television technologies
  by media radio comics plays
by genre   Wikipedians who like radio by genre Wikipedians who like comics by genre Wikipedians who like plays by genre
action Wikipedians who like action by media Wikipedians who like action radio Wikipedians who like action comics Wikipedians who like action plays
adventure Wikipedians who like adventure by media Wikipedians who like adventure radio Wikipedians who like adventure comics Wikipedians who like adventure plays
children's Wikipedians who like children's media Wikipedians who like children's radio Wikipedians who like children's comics Wikipedians who like children's plays
comedy Wikipedians who like comedy by media Wikipedians who like comedy radio Wikipedians who like comedy comics Wikipedians who like comedy plays
drama Wikipedians who like drama by media Wikipedians who like drama radio Wikipedians who like drama comics Wikipedians who like drama plays
erotica Wikipedians who like erotica by media Wikipedians who like erotic radio Wikipedians who like erotic comics Wikipedians who like erotic plays
fantasy Wikipedians who like fantasy by media Wikipedians who like fantasy radio Wikipedians who like fantasy comics Wikipedians who like fantasy plays
historical fiction Wikipedians who like historical fiction by media Wikipedians who like historical fiction radio Wikipedians who like historical fiction comics Wikipedians who like historical fiction plays
horror Wikipedians who like horror by media Wikipedians who like horror radio Wikipedians who like horror comics Wikipedians who like horror plays
mystery Wikipedians who like mystery by media Wikipedians who like mystery radio Wikipedians who like mystery comics Wikipedians who like mystery plays
romance Wikipedians who like romance by media Wikipedians who like romance radio Wikipedians who like romance comics Wikipedians who like romance plays
science fiction Wikipedians who like science fiction by media Wikipedians who like science fiction radio Wikipedians who like science fiction comics Wikipedians who like science fiction plays
westerns Wikipedians who like westerns by media Wikipedians who like western radio Wikipedians who like western comics Wikipedians who like western plays
non-fiction Wikipedians who like non-fiction by media Wikipedians who like non-fiction radio Wikipedians who like non-fiction comics Wikipedians who like non-fiction plays
health Wikipedians who like health by media      
history Wikipedians who like history by media     Wikipedians who like history plays
science Wikipedians who like science by media      
technology Wikipedians interested in media technology Wikipedians interested in radio technologies Wikipedians interested in comics technologies Wikipedians interested in plays technologies
  by media games video games role-playing games
by genre   Wikipedians who like games by genre Wikipedians who like video games by genre Wikipedians who like role-playing games by genre
action Wikipedians who like action by media Wikipedians who like action games Wikipedians who like action video games Wikipedians who like action role-playing games
adventure Wikipedians who like adventure by media Wikipedians who like adventure games Wikipedians who like adventure video games Wikipedians who like adventure role-playing games
children's Wikipedians who like children's media Wikipedians who like children's games Wikipedians who like children's video games Wikipedians who like children's role-playing games
comedy Wikipedians who like comedy by media Wikipedians who like comedy games Wikipedians who like comedy video games Wikipedians who like comedy role-playing games
drama Wikipedians who like drama by media Wikipedians who like drama games Wikipedians who like drama video games Wikipedians who like drama role-playing games
erotica Wikipedians who like erotica by media Wikipedians who like erotic games Wikipedians who like erotic video games Wikipedians who like erotic role-playing games
fantasy Wikipedians who like fantasy by media Wikipedians who like fantasy games Wikipedians who like fantasy video games Wikipedians who like fantasy role-playing games
historical fiction Wikipedians who like historical fiction by media Wikipedians who like historical fiction games Wikipedians who like historical fiction video games Wikipedians who like historical fiction role-playing games
horror Wikipedians who like horror by media Wikipedians who like horror games Wikipedians who like horror video games Wikipedians who like horror role-playing games
mystery Wikipedians who like mystery by media Wikipedians who like mystery games Wikipedians who like mystery video games Wikipedians who like mystery role-playing games
romance Wikipedians who like romance by media Wikipedians who like romance games Wikipedians who like romance video games Wikipedians who like romance role-playing games
science fiction Wikipedians who like science fiction by media Wikipedians who like science fiction games Wikipedians who like science fiction video games Wikipedians who like science fiction role-playing games
westerns Wikipedians who like westerns by media Wikipedians who like western games Wikipedians who like western video games Wikipedians who like western role-playing games
technology Wikipedians interested in media technology Wikipedians interested in game technologies Wikipedians interested in video game technologies Wikipedians interested in role-playing game technologies

Genre tree

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This is incomplete. For the discussion of this proposal it should be a good base.

GenreFictionAction
Non-fictionAdventure
Drama
Dramedy
ComedySituation comedy
Romantic comedy
Romance
Erotica
Historical fiction
Alternate history
Speculative fictionAlternate societyDystopia
TragedyDisasterUtopia
WesternsHorrorSplatterpunk
Elfpunk
FantasyMythpunk
PunkMannerpunk
Science fictionBiopunk
Clockpunk
CyberpunkPostcyberpunk
Dieselpunk
Steampunk

Like versus interested

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Why use like? The word interested is too passive and ambiguous. The word like on the other hand is far more active and specific. People who like something will do whatever they can to keep articles up to date and improve them. People who are just interested may give the articles a glance and nothing more. Also, even though we are always told that Wikipedia is not paper, it does not mean that we should not try to conserve space. Remember, every time a page is saved, the entire last copy is stored. That is a lot of space.

Compare:

[[Category:Wikipedians interested in X]]
[[Category:Wikipedians who like X]]

X does not have genres

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Televisions and radios, as devices, do not have genres, however what comes out of them most likely does. Instead of using the longer television series and radio series (or play), they have been truncated. This also avoids the wrangling between series and programme.

Where is music?

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Music has its own genres that do not go with this scheme. There are two categories related to this within the parent, Wikipedians who listen to film scores and Wikipedians who listen to video game music.

Franchise or series specific categories

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Whenever a franchise or series category is created, it would be put into as many of the above categories that apply.

Examples

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Wikipedians who like Law & Order
This example is of a properly named category that fits into several of the above categories.
Wikipedians who like drama television - There are currently 3 series being aired, 3 former series, and 2 international series.
Wikipedians who like drama novels - There are 3 related novels.
Wikipedians who like non-fiction books - There are 2 related non-fiction books.
Wikipedians who like drama video games - There are 2 or 3 related video games.
Wikipedians who like drama films - There is 1 related film.
Wikipedians who like The Chronicles of Narnia
This example is of an improperly named category that fits into several of the above categories.
Wikipedians who like fantasy literature - There are 7 novels in this series.
Wikipedians who like fantasy films - There are 7 related films.
Wikipedians who like fantasy television - There is a related television series.
Wikipedians who like fantasy video games - There are 2 related video games.
Wikipedians who like fantasy plays - There is a related play.
Wikipedians who like fantasy radio - There is a related radio series.
Wikipedians who listen to film scores - There is a related soundtrack.
Wikipedians who like The Addams family
This example is of a category that has yet to be created but will fit into multiple genres and media.
Wikipedians who like horror television and Wikipedians who like comedy television - There are currently 5 television series.
Wikipedians who like horror films and Wikipedians who like comedy films - There are 4 related films.
Wikipedians who like horror games and Wikipedians who like comedy games - There are 6 related games of various types.
Wikipedians who like horror literature and Wikipedians who like comedy literature - There are many novels.
Wikipedians who like non-fiction books - There are 2 (maybe more) related non-fiction books.
Wikipedians who listen to film scores - There are 4 related soundtracks.
Wikipedians who like Ripley's Believe It or Not!
This example is of a category that has gone beyond media and will fit into non-genre and non-media categories.
Wikipedians who like non-fiction comics - It all started out as a little comic strip.
Wikipedians who like non-fiction books - There are currently scores of related books out there.
Wikipedians who like non-fiction television - There are 4 related television series.
Wikipedians who like non-fiction films - If Jim Carey can ever get it off the ground.
Wikipedians interested in museums - There are all of those Odditoriums out there. (I could have sworn this one existed.)

Creating a franchise or series user category

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If you want to create a user category for something you like, take a look around to see how many others like the same thing. You can do this by going to several articles about it and seeing who else edits them. You can also go to the lead article are see who else has it on their user pages by clicking "What links here" and choosing "User" from the drop down box next to "Namespace:". You could also use Lady Aleena's user link template which will create a link to the article and a link to "What links here" specifically the user namespace. From that list of users, you could talk to them about creating the category.

Another way is to talk about it on the red linked category's talk page. Just because the category does not exist yet, does not mean that you can not talk about it. On that page you could discuss why the category should be created. If you wanted to create Wikipedians who like Cagney & Lacey, you might want to go to its talk page and let people know that it is a long running, award winning television series which has spawned four television films, a novelization, and two non-fiction books of which only the main article has been created.

The last method would be to propose it on a general proposal page, which has not been created yet. As with the message on the talk page, you should explain why the category is worthy of being created. It is unlikely that a category such as Wikipedians who like Labyrinth would survive long, even if it is a cult classic film with a soundtrack, not even an article category for it would survive long. To find others who like that film and soundtrack, you could use Lady Aleena's template above.

You could also just add the red linked category to your user page and click on it to see if anyone else has it red linked.

More power to user categories

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To make user categories more powerful, it would be a good idea to show which articles are covered by the category. The {{Topic co-ordination link}} template would be a good addition to any user category.

Note: The template mentioned in this section is one that is used for articles only. If this proposal is accepted, the template would have to be expanded, or a new template would have to written.

Conclusion

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There are still items to be worked out, however, this is hopefully a good start to the discussion.